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A new Christian who recently
came out of Mormonism sent me a link to the FAIR article,
The Nature of Prophets and Prophecy,
by John A. Tvedtnes. An analysis of this
article shows it to be shallow and without merit. In the
article, Mr. Tvedtnes states some things that are true and
aren’t disputed by Christians. However, he implies that we
do dispute those things, which isn’t accurate. For
instance: the conditional nature of some prophecies,
allowing for a different outcome if people repent. For Mr.
Tvedtnes to suggest that this is news to Christians would be
like me saying, “Contrary to what Mormons may believe, there
is such a thing as sin.” Such a comment is
disingenuous, and leaves the reader to make faulty
conclusions of others’ beliefs.
Mr. Tvedtnes includes some things in
the second paragraph that are irrelevant to the topic (in my
opinion), but I want to address them anyways. He states, “The
typical critic makes light of the admonition of LDS
missionaries that people should pray to know from God
whether Joseph Smith was a true prophet. This, they insist,
is not the ‘biblical’ method of determining the truth. If
this were true, however, the promise of James 1:5 is false…”
We don’t “make light” of this admonition – we reject it –
and it in no way renders James 1:5 false. James 1:5 tells
us to pray for wisdom if we lack it. It is not meant to
imply that we should pray about acceptance of people who
teach unbiblical doctrines. Doing so is putting God to the
test, and setting oneself up to receive a false wonder or
sign. Satan can present false signs, and this is a biblical
fact. The author also snidely says, “Ironically, those
who preach against praying for divine confirmation of truth
often believe that one must pray and confess the name of
Jesus in order to receive a witness that one has been
‘saved.’” No, we don’t pray to receive a witness. He
obviously doesn’t understand Biblical Christian teaching.
The sinner’s prayer is a prayer for forgiveness and an
invitation to Jesus to become Lord of our life. It has
nothing to do with praying for a sign.
The article goes on to state the
Bible’s test for a prophet (Deuteronomy 18:20-22). I have
no disagreement with this, and will include it here also.
This is from the NIV, but you can compare it to the KJV and
see they say the same thing:
But a prophet who presumes to
speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say,
or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be
put to death. You may say to yourselves, "How can we know
when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" If what
a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take
place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not
spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be
afraid of him.
Tvedtnes says, “The Deuteronomy passage does not say that a
man is a false prophet because his prophecy failed, only
that the failed prophecy is false. This being the case, it
is incorrect to conclude, as most critics do, that one false
prophecy (even if some true prophecies are given) makes
Joseph Smith a false prophet.”
First, this position fails Scripturally. The last sentence
says, “Do not be afraid of him.”
The Hebrew word for “afraid” here is guwr,
which means, “to fear, be afraid, or stand in awe of.” This
is the same word used elsewhere in the context of “fear the
Lord.” Obviously, in that context, the fear is one of
respect and awe. If we are not to be in fearful
(respectful) awe of such a prophet, then he is no one we
need to give ear to. He is NOT a prophet of God. Moreover,
this allegation fails logically. If a person uttered a
false prophecy, then how are we to trust ANY prophecy that
comes from his mouth? How can we rely on one prophecy, if
another prophecy of his has been proven false? Talk about a
roll of the dice!
When speaking of the rejection and stoning of prophets cited by Jesus in
Matthew 23:37, Tvedtnes writes, “These men were
undoubtedly stoned because, in the judgment of their
contemporaries, they were false prophets.”
The passage does not state such, so this is conjecture by
the author. Furthermore, the Bible does tell of legitimate
prophets who were rejected, but the reasons for the
rejection can be easily seen as not valid. Does Mr.
Tvedtnes really thing Christians are so intellectually lame
as to not learn from Scripture? When we say that Joseph
Smith is not a true prophet of God, it’s for good reason –
not because he said things we just don’t like.
Mr. Tvedtnes then quotes Joseph Fielding Smith as saying:
When prophets write and speak on
the principles of the gospel, they should have the
guidance of the Spirit. If they do, then all that they say
will be in harmony with the revealed word. If they are in
harmony then we know that they have not spoken
presumptuously. Should a man speak or write, and what he
says is in conflict with the standards which are accepted,
with the revelations the Lord has given, then we may
reject what he has said, no matter who he is. (
Doctrines of Salvation
1:187)
I agree with this statement by Smith. If this were applied with
intellectual honesty, then we should reject Joseph Smith’s
revelation on plurality of wives, as this is in conflict
with the Bible (and also with the Book of Mormon).
According to Joseph Fielding Smith’s own statement, Joseph
Smith Jr. was a false prophet.
Tvedtnes then goes into
discussion on conditional prophecy, as we mentioned at the
beginning. He discusses some of the conditional prophecies
at the Bible which, when taken out of context of their
conditional nature, appear to be false. Of course, these
are not false prophecies, and the author didn’t claim them
to be. I must, however, correct an error or two of his. He
mentions Ezekiel’s prophecy against the city of Tyre, and
incorrectly states that Nebuchadnezzar never took the city.
He doesn’t mention the part of the prophecy that stated that
Tyre’s ruins would be thrown into the sea. There was a
two-part fulfillment of this prophecy. After a long war,
Nebuchadnezzar took mainland Tyre, with her residents
fleeing to the nearby island. The ruins remained until
Alexander the Great came along. In order to conquer the
island, he threw the ruins into the water to create a bridge
of debris to cross. By the time Nebuchadnezzar finally took
Tyre, however, there weren’t many riches left to plunder.
He then turned to Egypt, conquering the Egyptian army. As
prophesied, Egypt was restored after forty years. Also
according to prophecy, they never ruled over another country
again. In spite of a few attempts to conquer Israel in the
1900’s, Egypt could never defeat this tiny little nation.
And regarding the destruction of Babylon listed in Isaiah
13, most Bible scholars agree that this is an end times
prophecy. Babylon, the county seat of Antichrist, will be
totally destroyed, never to be inhabited again during the
millennial Kingdom.
When speaking of the timing of prophecy fulfillment, Tvedtnes mentions
Jesus’ use of “this generation” when we writes, “As
for Jesus' statement that these events would happen during
his generation, Joseph Smith handled the problem by saying
that Jesus was referring to the ‘generation’ in which the
signs would begin (Joseph Smith-Matthew 1:34). Those who
reject Joseph as a ‘false prophet’ are left with the
quandary of either believing Jesus to have falsely
prophesied or of accepting at least one teaching from Joseph
Smith.”
Jesus was indeed speaking of the generation in which the
signs would begin. However, acknowledging that does not put
me in a quandary any more than believing the earth is round
would put me in quandary simply because Joseph Smith
believed the same thing. I believe Joseph Smith was a false
prophet, but that doesn’t mean he’s incapable of being right
about things. The view that Jesus was referring to a latter
generation has been widely held for some time.
Mr. Tvedtnes then says, “But, from
another point of view, we know that there are people who
were alive in Jesus day (and also in Joseph's) who have not
died, namely, the Apostle John (John 21:20-24; D&C 7) and
the three Nephite disciples (3 Nephi 28:4-9).” Okay,
I’m sure you can guess what I’ll say about the three Nephite
disciples – I submit that these fictional characters didn’t
exist. And with regards to John, the LDS belief that he
still “tarries” is mistaken. In John 21:22, Jesus said of
John, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what
is that to you? You must follow me." The next verse,
however, says, “Because of this, the rumor spread among
the brothers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus
did not say that he would not die; he only said, ‘If I
want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to
you?’” [emphasis added] History records that John was
eventually freed from prison on the Island of Patmos (where
he wrote the Book of Revelation) and died of natural causes
at Ephesus around AD 100.
Tvedtnes mentions something very
important. He quotes President Harold B. Lee in a European
area conference:
If anyone, regardless of his
position in the Church, were to advance a doctrine that is
not substantiated by the standard Church works, meaning
the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants,
and the Pearl of Great Price, you may know that his
statement is merely his private opinion. The only one
authorized to bring forth any new doctrine is the
President of the Church, who, when he does, will declare
it as revelation from God, and it will be so accepted by
the Council of the Twelve and sustained by the body of the
Church. And if any man speak a doctrine which
contradicts what is in the standard Church works, you may
know by that same token that it is false and you are not
bound to accept it as truth. [emphasis added]
The last line is something with which
I’m in complete agreement (though realize that I have a
different definition of “standard Church works, mine being
the Bible only). D&C 132 lists a prophecy by Joseph Smith,
recorded July 12, 1843. The introduction says, “Although
the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the
historical records that the doctrines and principles
involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet
since 1831.” These dates come into play here in just a
second. Let’s move on to the actual prophecy. Verses 1-4
state, “VERILY, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant
Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to
know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my
servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and
Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine
of their having many wives and concubines — Behold, and
lo, I am the Lord thy God, and will answer thee as touching
this matter. Therefore, prepare thy heart to receive and
obey the instructions which I am about to give unto you; for
all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the
same. For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an
everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant,
then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and
be permitted to enter into my glory.” According to this
revelation/prophecy by Joseph Smith, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
Moses, David, and Solomon were “justified” by God for
touching the “principle and doctrine” of having many wives
and concubines. Yet the Book of Mormon states otherwise.
In Jacob 2:24, it says, “Behold, David and Solomon truly
had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable
before me, saith the Lord.” Jacob 1:15 says, “And
now it came to pass that the people of Nephi, under the
reign of the second king, began to grow hard in their
hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked
practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many
wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.” So in
1834 (or 1831), Joseph Smith claims the Lord told him that
He justified David and Solomon for practicing the “doctrine”
of having many wives and concubines. Yet the Book of
Mormon, published in 1830, says that this practice was
“abominable” and a “wicked practice.” And what of the
Bible? While the Bible presents the historical fact that
certain men had many wives and concubines, this was not an
instruction from God. Instead, in 2 Timothy chapter 3, we
read that elders and deacons must be “the husband of but one
wife.” Therefore, by President Lee’s own words, Joseph
Smith is a false prophet. His words (attributed to the
Lord) in 1834/31 contradict two “standard Church works” –
the Book of Mormon and the Bible. Moreover, this was to be
an everlasting covenant. Anyone who rejects this could not
be permitted to enter in to the glory of God, according to
D&C 132:4. Yet in 1890, President Wilford Woodruff did away
with the everlasting covenant of plural marriage, as
explained in Manifesto 1.
After posting President Lee’s comment,
Tvedtnes engages in quite a bit of diversion. For instance,
he states that the fact that Joseph Smith was not sinless
does not disqualify him as a prophet. This is diversionary,
as nobody is claiming that Joseph Smith was a false prophet
simply because he wasn’t sinless. He also says “A few
critics have claimed that Joseph Smith cannot be a true
prophet because of the many enemies he made and because he
spent time in prison.” I don’t know what “few critics”
the author is referring to, as this again is not an argument
most people make. He’s going into this as a diversion from
the real issue. He also takes on those who point out that
Joseph Smith shot some members of the mob as they stormed
the Carthage jail. He says, “Do the critics really
expect that the prophet should meekly sit down with his
hands up, waiting for some 200 men to burst into the room
and riddle him, his beloved brother, and two of his closest
friends with bullets? Does the fact that he fought for his
life make him less a prophet?” I don’t know any
“critics” who raise this issue in relation to Joseph Smith’s
status as a prophet. This is only brought up because for a
long time the LDS Church drew a parallel between the death
of Smith and the death of Jesus by saying that Smith was
“led like a lamb to the slaughter.” This is disingenuous,
as lambs don’t fire back. Jesus WAS led like a lamb to the
slaughter. Joseph Smith fought back. I don’t fault him for
that, but let’s not pretend he just sat there. Once again,
this is a diversionary tactic by the author. One of the
diversionary tactics I find most outrageous is the
following: “Was Joseph Smith's order to destroy the
Nauvoo Expositor press, so readily condemned by critics,
really much different from the disturbance Jesus caused in
the temple when he made a whip and attacked the stock
merchants and money-changers, overthrowing their tables
(John 2:13-16)?” Umm… let me think about this… YES!!!
Jesus didn’t cause a disturbance in the temple because the
merchants were saying bad things about Him. He caused a
disturbance because the merchants were defiling the Temple
of God!! Joseph Smith and the Nauvoo council ordered the
destruction of the press because they were getting bad
press. Yes, I see a big difference. This is not only a
diversionary tactic, but I see it as blasphemous and
outrageous!
The author tries to address the issue
of contradictory revelations by saying the following:
Joseph Smith has often been criticized on the grounds
that his revelations contradict those of the Bible. Most
of the contradictions are more pretended than real, and
result from the inability of the critics to accept any
revelation subsequent to the writing of the books of the
Bible. Some of Joseph's revelations, however, contain
ideas not clearly delineated in the Bible or foreign to
it. We have, for example, the idea of eternal marriage
or of baptism for the dead, for both of which there are
only hints in the Bible but much evidence in other early
Christian literature.
Eternal marriage is refuted in the
Bible. This is a hard pill for some Mormons to swallow. I
know that in Heaven, my wife and I won’t be married.
However, there is nothing to stop us from being best of
friends and hanging out together in Heaven. THIS sounds
wonderful to me. It sounds better to Jennifer than the LDS
doctrine that I would be a god and she would be my wife.
Not only is it blasphemous, but also naďve. The Church
teaches that plurality of wives will be reinstated in the
Celestial Kingdom, so she’d simply be one of many wives I
take in the hereafter. Thank God that doctrine is false and
heretical. Also, baptism for the dead, though mentioned by
Paul, is not espoused by Paul. He was addressing people who
had wrong ideas and wrong doctrine on the resurrection of
the dead. When he spoke of baptism for the dead, he said it
was a practice “they” engaged in. If it were true
doctrine, wouldn’t the pronoun be “we” or “I”? No, Paul
distanced himself from that practice. I imagine the author
knows his argument here is weak. He also tries to compare
Joseph Smith’s false prophecies and revelations with New
Testament revelations that present a different view than Old
Testament revelations. What he mentions are natural
consequences of having entered the Age of Grace under Jesus
Christ. The New Covenant of Grace replaced the Old Covenant
of the Law. Mr. Tvedtnes would have us believe that Joseph
presented a Newer New Covenant. If so, it’s not from
God.
I have two last points to address.
One has to deal with the author’s treatment of the Civil
War Prophecy. I’ll get to that in just a bit. First, let
me address a paragraph the author should have just not
written: “Can we risk our eternal salvation on the Bible,
which reports that the sun and the moon stood still for
Joshua (Joshua 10:12-14), when we know that this…is a
scientific impossibility? One might object that what the
Bible describes is the standing still of the earth, rather
than of the heavenly bodies (which is precisely the way the
Book of Mormon puts it in Helaman 12:13-15).[sic] But
the point is that the author of Joshua held an incorrect
belief concerning the movement of celestial bodies, even if
that does not invalidate the basic story he tells.”
The author apparently believes that God MUST, at ALL TIMES,
but subject to the laws of nature that He created. He
believes that God is incapable of transcending His
creation. This notion renders God natural, rather than
supernatural. The God of the Bible is greater than His
creation, and has throughout history transcended natural
laws to create events that defy a naturalistic explanation.
These are called miracles.
Finally, let’s look at Smith’s
prophecy on war (D&C 87). Tvedtnes states that this
prophecy was fulfilled by the American Civil War. However,
while he tries to acknowledge some important historical
facts, he fails. Let’s look at the facts. On July 14, 1832
(more than five months before the date of Smith's prophecy),
Congress passed a tariff act that South Carolina declared
null and void. Because tensions were high, President Andrew
Jackson put the U.S. army on alert and the United States
expected war in 1832! The LDS Evening and Morning Star
and many other U.S. newspapers reported that information
before Smith's prophecy! So anyone who might have read
Joseph Smith's prophecy at that time would not have been
enthralled by a prediction of war beginning in South
Carolina -- everyone was expecting that. However, things
calmed down. Perhaps that's why, even though D. & C.
87 is dated December 25, 1832, it did not appear in the 1833
Book of Commandments or in any edition of the
D. & C. or other LDS scripture until after
the Civil War began! It was printed in the 1851 Pearl of
Great Price in England and in The Seer by
Orson Pratt in 1854, but neither of those were considered
then as scripture. And in the 1850's, the rumors of war
between the North and South were already starting, so that
was probably why Pratt published it then. The point is, the
prediction of war beginning in South Carolina was something
anyone would have made in 1832. Reviving this in the 1850’s
was reactionary to renewed rumors of civil war. At the time
it was given, most people would have read it and said,
“Well, duh!”
Addressing verses 2 and 3, it says, "And
the time will come that war will be poured out upon all
nations, beginning at this place. For behold, the Southern
States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the
Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation
of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call
upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against
other nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all
nations." Now, the south DID call upon Great Britain
for help, but Great Britain did not get involved, nor
did they call upon other nations to defend themselves. If
one reads this with intellectual honesty as opposed to blind
faith, it’s easy to see that Joseph Smith establishes the
South Carolina rebellion as the causal factor in war
being poured out upon all nations. This simply did not
happen, and given the wording of the prophecy, it can in
no way be construed as something that can still
come to pass. This prophecy doesn't say, "and someday down
the road, war will be poured out on all nations for reasons
other than the South Carolina rebellion," but that's the way
Mr. Tvedtnes wants you to interpret it. World War I did not
start because of the South Carolina rebellion, and its roots
did not begin there. Any effort to link the South Carolina
rebellion or the American Civil War with any war that has
happened since is simply illogical. D&C 87 was not a divine
insight. Rather, it was a false prophecy. Whether you use
the prophecy test listed in Deuteronomy 18:20-22, or the
test cited by President Lee, Joseph Smith fails both tests.
He was a false prophet. It is incumbent upon Christians to
reach Mormons with the true gospel of Jesus Christ. It’s
time to bring them into a saving and joyous relationship
with Jesus Christ.

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